The midrash states that when Saul learned of this, he was angry with his daughter and demanded of her: Why did you deceive me and let my enemy escape? Israel had to live with those consequences for years to come. That would be such a carnal thing to dojust let the Gibeonites kill seven of Saul's kids who could claim the Israelite throne and get them out of the way. "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? He was the king. He was setting us an example of what we should be doing in a spiritual sense. Should we make a covenant with them? Gibeon is only a few miles mostly north of Jerusalem. There should have been payment for it. In some ways, the story centers around covenants or treaties, one made between Israel and the Gibeonites in Joshua 9, another between Jonathan and David in 1 Sam. The Gibeonites remained enemies and aliens to the household of God forever after. This would be in the spring during or after the Days of Unleavened Bread. This indicates that God was not pleased, whatsoever, with how this situation was resolved by David. Berean Literal Bible Acts 13:21. Web2 Samuel 21:2 indicates that King Saul pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off "in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah" (2 Samuel 21:5). Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." They were a group of Amorites. There was a great deal of turmoil in Israel leading up to this time. There was not a cloud in sight and you are the king. 'Whoever kills a person, the murderer shall be put to death on the testimony of witnesses [another layer that comes in]; but one witness is not sufficient testimony against a person for the death penalty. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation" Psalm 24:4-5. The historical narrative of King David is drawing to a close. But the consequences of their sinswhat it means to us; what happened because of their sinstill affects us today. Perhaps he thought, "Hmm. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. All they wanted, they said, was a peace treaty with Israel; then they would return to their distant home. Based on this principle, I think we can be confident that justice was carried out in this very nasty incident, even though we are not told all the details of what happened. But it does not say so here in so many words. He wanted to go do something else. What would be some verses from the Bible to save a marriage? He just let the natural cycles take their course. God punished Adam and Eve for their sin. Saul tried to get back his throne from God by doing what he thought was right, what he thought was zealous for God, by getting rid of the foreignersincluding the Gibeonitesthat were among them. He received good marks in Scripture. I do not think that King David thought through the implications of this matter very well. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.". This is like offering them reparations for what Saul had done, and they replied that it was not good enough. ", The Gibeonites, we are told, were not necessarily a warlike people. We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. September 01 2013 Most, if not all, of those responsible were dead. He committed colossal sins that whole nations would be held in contempt for. The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. 6. King Saul would conscript them into the army, and off they would go in a bloodthirsty rage against somebody else. A brief, but important, reference to the Gibeonites can also be found in 2 Samuel 21:1-14. The Lord told them they had made a commitment to these people and they had to stand by it. The famine was a punishment for Sauls violation of the covenant, made with the Gibeonites back during the days of Joshua. These are the two hints. Your threshing shall last till the time of vintage, and the vintage shall last till the time of sowing; you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely. Joshua realized he had been deceived, but he kept the letter of his covenant with the Gibeonites to let them live; however, he cursed and enslaved them as woodcutters and water-carriers. Saul later pursued the Gibeonites and sought to kill them off in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. And then King David inquired of the Lord. [And the answer is] Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. God says very clearly that Israel was to conquer them, destroy them, and make no covenant with them. Why wasn't I told about this?" We have all followed in the same way of life as our first parents Adam and Eve. According to a May 2007 George Barna Poll, 63% of Americans, mostly professing Christians, believe that Jesus sinned during His physical life! Therefore, the world is full of sintheir own sin. (1) A three-year famine prompts David to seek God. Some interesting similarities to New Testament times occur to me: The fact that David made a covenant with Jonathan regarding Jonathans house (1 Sam 20:14-16), would take precedence over all other reasons not to give up Mephibosheth, I would suppose. & "Take heed that you be not deceived." 1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. Turn to Exodus 20 and see that right in the Ten Commandments it sounds like it could mean that sin does travel down the family tree. Other Translations for 2 Samuel 21:1 Discussion for 2 Samuel 21 View All Nearly two-thirds of American professing Christians believe that their Savior sinned. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. So, it is very likely that these men were murdered both as retribution and as sacrifices to some pagan god to spite the God of the Bible, and therefore, Israel. Time to retire!" Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. It is very evident from verse 4 that somebody offered money, either from the palace or from the family of Saul. I don't know a great deal about this particular segment of those biblical people called the Hittites. It said earlier that they wanted them to be hung before the Lord in Gibeah of Saul. Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. He had to sit there and judge people with all the little things they constantly brought up to him that seemed to need his decision on. However, that is not the case. So they thought, "Hmm. Hearing that Joshua was camped in their general neighborhood, after his devastating defeat of the strategic cities of Jericho and Ai, the Gibeonites sent a delegation to him at nearby Gilgal. We can't withstand them. It says a bit later that somebody told him what that woman was doing out there protecting the bodies of the slain men of Saul's house for the past six months and it was as though he said, "Oh really? Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." Where have you been, David? Finally, after six or seven months, the rains came in their natural cycle. Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. The Bible barely alludes to the king's mad scheme, but we know that Saul's plot miserably failed. by LeRoy Gardenier WebThe biblical writer confirms this charge by stating that Saul tried to annihilate [ nkah, to inflict a dead blow] them (2 Sam. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. Why are they where they were? That is not what it says here. They were probably innocent of this particular crime. PHARAOH AND HAMAN - Share The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a Were they participants in killing the Gibeonites? Joshua 9:3-6 But when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and Ai, they worked craftily [remember that], and went and pretended to be ambassadors. It causes a problem in the way that the next generation is formed. In effect, what they wanted to do was hang the bodies of Saul's family in Saul's hometown in sight of Jerusalem. Then Gibeon was a mile or two more to the north-northwest. And as the one righteous person in the whole nation, he could have cried out, God would have heard, and God would have saved. Therefore, one of the first things that Joshua and the Israelites do is they allow a big problem to linger in their midst. I do not know if that was the case, but he had just gone through Absalom's rebellion, and Sheba's rebellion, and maybe he allowed that to cross his mind too. One of the things He specifically mentions is famine, which happens to be the third sealphysical famine, but we remember from Amos that there is a spiritual famine as well. The Gibeonites have the dubious distinction of having duped Joshua and the elders of Israel. Psalm 34:17-18 The righteous cry out, and the LORD hears, and delivers them out of all their troubles. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. What might he have done? We do not know how long before II Samuel 21 this incident happened. He says to watchbe aware, be awake, be vigilant; know what your spiritual state is. How did the spirit of God move upon the face of the waters in Genesis 1:2? Then they went back and took Ai. The Bible does not provide us the details of this killing. If He said that you are out of here, you are out of here. King David is mentioned by name as a hero of faith. At the request of the Gibeonites themselves, seven sons of Saul were executed ( II Sam. It would take three or four generations for perversion to be kicked out of a society. However, we have a great deal of trouble identifying with or understanding pure, innocent and perfect Galahad. Now, if we would go through II Samuel 24, that even though David made a huge mistake in chapter 21, he did it right in chapter 24. So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. Go coach! We still need some more background. I think he was very low. There were no cell phones. That is the bottom line. Notice God declares that the bloodguilt was not just on Saul, but also his house. WebThe Lord answered, Saul and his family of murderers are the reason for this shortage, because he killed the Gibeonites. 2 Samuel 21:1 American Standard Version (ASV) 1 And there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David sought the face of Jehovah. How many died in bar-fights? 2 And the king called the Gibeonites, and said unto them; (now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the ESV - All answers are REVIEWED and MODERATED. And Samuel says, "See? Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. There is a great deal more than what meets the eye. Scripture has said this explicitly. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. Even so, maybe there were even worse problems, perhaps, and David was blind to them for three years. THE BATTLES OF THE LORD Joshua 9:22-24 Then Joshua called for them, and he spoke to them, saying, "Why have you deceived us, saying, 'We are very far from you,' when you dwell near us? Then, pray for all you are worth so that your relationship with God and Jesus Christ is strong when the famine hits. There are references to the Lord, but they are not references in a spiritual sense. Vote Up God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. EVIL'S ULTIMATE END. 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