One of the undercover operatives also got a job working for a consortium of wealthy liberal donors the Wyoming Investor Network which had made a strategic decision to support Republican moderate candidates over those more closely aligned with Mr. Trumps agenda, the documents say. Neither party wants to be, you know, exposed to this kind of spycraft - right? Why are they there? But I think - you would think that Democrats and Republicans would all be united, that this is a bipartisan issue, right? So O'Keefe's Instagram photo, you know, led people to realize that, you know, Prince had played a role, at least in letting Project Veritas use the ranch for training. And then Mark Mazzetti, you know, my colleague, who just is an extraordinary journalist, we - you know, we managed to suss out what was going - we think - to a great degree what was going on in Wyoming and these other states. These two are conservatives, right? Ms. Gore ended up rejecting the proposal because it was too expensive people with knowledge of the plan said it would start in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. And then I started Googling them and doing some research on them. I'm Dave Davies. There was a meeting at lunch which led to a resignation, I believe, of GOLDMAN: They targeted our editor, Dean Baquet. And it would - you know, and make an enormous amount of money. James OKeefe, the head of Project Veritas, declined to answer detailed questions about Mr. And there was, you know, another individual from the Emirates who was there. There was a massacre at a plaza in Iraq. Other Project Veritas employees on the emails include Joe Halderman, an award-winning former television producer who in 2010 pleaded guilty to trying to extort $2 million from the comedian David Letterman. What was this about? document.write ("&loc=" + escape(window.location)); And it's not clear to us if he was making any money off of this. The documents give new details about efforts to manipulate the politics of Wyoming. And, I mean, they were both active, but she was literally, you know, infiltrating these Democratic groups. And if they were given money, if the money was distributed by this former spy, Richard Seddon, and they pulled from that pot of money, which was part of that operation, that could also be problematic. They used a code name LibertyU for their operative inside the organization, Marisa Jorge, who graduated from Liberty University in Virginia, one of the nations largest Christian colleges. If you're a print subscriber, but do not yet have an online account, click here to create one. You know, we had - we talked to many, many people who worked there, and, you know, they described Seddon as wanting to do more long-term operations - right? Ms. Jorge, 25, did not respond to email addresses associated with her Liberty University account. Mr. Halderman was copied on several messages providing updates about the Michigan operation, and in one message, he gave instructions to Ms. Jorge. Prince had hired a former MI6 officer to help train the Project Veritas operatives, The Intercept wrote, but it did not identify the officer. Do we know why? Remind us who they are and what they've done. Citing his ties to the state, his attorneys opted to file Princes defamation case against The Intercept in Wyomings U.S. District Court in May. Prince a former C.I.A. It is, instead, an entity dedicated to a specific political agenda.. This couple, Beau and Sofia - they spent real time and effort trying to ingratiate themselves with Democrats and progressives. - trying to find, you know, damaging information on, you know, on political rivals, you know, using, you know, private investigative firms. They broke into the DNC. I also think that - I think recently, too, O'Keefe, did a photo op or made a video with Donald Trump. Efforts to locate Mr. Thomas were unsuccessful. So, you know, this is not something I had ever done as a - you know, this is not something journalists do. What were they trying to get? And he comes from a wealthy, conservative family in Michigan, right? Both operations were run by Project Veritas, a conservative group that has gained attention using hidden cameras and microphones for sting operations on news organizations, Democratic politicians and liberal advocacy groups. We still don't know everything about it, and we're trying to learn more about exactly who was behind this and if money was paid and so on. Did you receive the spare camera yet?. In 2017, Prince invited O'Keefe and Project Veritas employees to his family's Wyoming ranch and arranged for an unnamed former British MI6 officer to provide training for the group, The . The parties are currently awaiting a ruling from Judge Johnson, who could choose to allow the case to proceed in Wyoming; permit some more limited fact-gathering about the appropriate jurisdiction; transfer the case to New York; or throw it out entirely. Most notably, Prince had incorrectly asserted under the penalties of perjury he had been registered to vote in Wyoming since 2017.. GOLDMAN: No. The job put her in a position to gain valuable information about which Republican candidates the group was supporting with independent advertising. Even if it is true that Prince now genuinely considers himself a Wyoming resident, it cannot be said that [The Intercept] could fairly anticipate being [hauled] into court in Wyoming, the attorneys wrote in a September filing. Mr. Seddons recruitment of Mr. In fact, I wrote a memo about what I had found. For instance, Princes 2014 memoir said he splits his time between homes in Virginia and Abu Dhabi, where he pursues a variety of business ventures.. And his son - he brought his son, who was a former army officer, on board to help. But what is clear is if Beau and Sofia made these campaign contributions - right? She said the support she got from other teams was 'overwhelming. GOLDMAN: Well, again, this is a little murky. Presented with the details of the operation, Ledeen told the Times she was just a messenger, "not part of a plot.". Do we know? She was doing outreach to, you know, Democratic figures in Wyoming. And his supporters have vilified us. Prince said he thought hed registered to vote when hed obtained a Wyoming drivers license in October 2017. It's my understanding he designed the training exercises, which could have included, like, you know, going out to bars in Cody and trying to get people's names and numbers, how to pitch somebody in an elevator, how to spot people who could potentially provide you information. [I] was a Wyoming resident for many years,, That same day Oct. 9, 2017 Prince obtained a Wyomings drivers license, which he touted, In early 2017, Prince reportedly welcomed James OKeefe and others from the conservative group Project Veritas, which describes itself as an army of guerrilla journalists. That February, OKeefe tweeted an image of himself taking aim with a silenced handgun amid snowy mountains, saying the team was undergoing intense training from a classified location as we make Project Veritas the next great intelligence agency. The Intercept ultimately, Other outlets, however, have continued writing about the contractor. GOLDMAN: Yes, the Government Accountability Office. I think it was called "Deep State Exposed" or "Deep State Uncovered." This is FRESH AIR. So flesh out the picture a bit. Ms. Jorge was eventually exposed and kicked out of the campaign office. The website for Mr. OKeefes coming wedding listed Donald Trump Jr. as an invited guest. Drawing on information from three unnamed sources, The Intercept reported Prince met with a top official from Russias Wagner Group at an undisclosed location earlier this year and offered his mercenary forces to support the firms operations in Libya and Mozambique.. var m3_r = Math.floor(Math.random()*99999999999); Valued at roughly $12 million by the Park County Assessors Office, the property includes a 17,470-square-foot residence that ranks among the largest in the area; county records show Prince owns a smaller home on an adjoining 10-acre parcel. Despite making multiple comments about Princes ties to Virginia, The Intercepts legal team said its immaterial to their jurisdictional arguments, which center on the publications own lack of ties to Wyoming. Erik Prince, founder of the private security firm Blackwater, filed a defamation lawsuit against The Intercept last month over an article published in 2020 that examined his efforts to sell. And ultimately, it did blow up in their face. "He's a very nice man," Prince said of Barrasso in the Breitbart interview. GOLDMAN: Beau does. DAVIES: This is FRESH AIR. He is married to an American diplomat, Alice Seddon, who is serving in the American consulate in Lagos, Nigeria. MATTHEW COLE: In. Sofia makes a contribution - a small contribution to a woman she had befriended who ran, unsuccessfully, for the Wyoming state legislature. The documents also show that, beyond Ms. Gore, other prominent Republicans in Wyoming were involved in Mr. Seddons spying operation. So while Times staff members may vote, they are not allowed to endorse or campaign for candidates or political causes. These were videos of - you know, in one case, Democrats or people working for the government who were - you know, it seemed like they were slow rolling the president's agenda or trying to thwart it or using - they were part of, you know, the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America. Erik Prince, the founder of controversial private military firm Blackwater and a supporter of former President Donald Trump, jumped into the COVID-19 business late last year with a deal to . I mean, if the idea was to get inside information, which would be useful to, you know, Republicans and conservatives, did they succeed? There's an annual one, Nellie T. Ross Banquet, and I believe it's in Cheyenne every February. It's not clear to me how close he is to Trump. That got a lot of attention, was investigated by Robert Mueller. And by the way, as we began reporting this, we started learning more about Beau's connection to people. And they admitted doing, you know - engaging in political activity while working for these government institutions, which Project Veritas asserted was, you know, wrong or even, you know - I can't remember if they said it was illegal or not. DAVIES: Right - Erik Prince, the security contractor who we'll talk more about. They received training for covert operations at a ranch near Cody owned by Blackwater founder Erik Prince, where Maier's mother works as a cook. While the state is currently solidly Republican, Mr. Seddon and Ms. Gore believed it was in danger of turning toward the Democrats, as Colorado has. Mr. Seddon directed an undercover operative to secretly tape the unions local leaders and try to gather information that could be made public to damage the organization, documents show. He's a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for The New York Times. - not quick-hit videos or, you know, shorter-term operations, which I think people say Mr. O'Keefe wanted to do. What's interesting about that Instagram post - and you can see it yourself, it's still out there - they like to describe themselves as journalists. Anyone can read what you share. The Intercept, however, has stood behind its reporting and has described the suit as an improper attempt to learn the identity of its sources. All rights reserved. We'll talk more about his stories on undercover operations by conservatives to infiltrate Democratic and progressive groups after a short break. So he had pitched this idea of a private security force to largely replace American troops in Afghanistan. We know that political operatives will gather opposition research as it's called - right? Beau picks up - starts working this marijuana legalization angle to try to make contacts with people - elected officials who are, in fact, pushing this bill to legalize marijuana. McMaster. Is he actually providing those kinds of services? The McMaster operation was aborted after he, unrelated to Project Veritas, resigned under pressure from Trump. Blackwater founder Erik Prince arranged for political activist James O'Keefe's conservative group Project Veritas to receive more than one round of "training in intelligence and elicitation. Prince declined to comment. Amid his globe-trotting, however, Prince says he does most of his work from Wyoming and calls Park County home. And then as I sort of gathered - started to gather information on this, I knew this was going to be a story. We know that because Glenn put it up on his Instagram account. DAVIES: What did you learn about how Beau and Sofia met? Prince and Mr. Seddon said the goal of the private spying operation was to gather dirt both on Democrats and RINOs slang in conservative circles for Republicans in name only. The plan was to begin in Wyoming, they said, and expand operations from there. Many conservatives have gleefully pounced on Project Veritass disclosures, including one particularly influential voice: Donald Trump Jr., the presidents eldest son. State records show Moyock Medical Supplies was formed in Wyoming by an associate of Princes on April 15 two days after The Intercept published its article. Mr. Seddon was not. Funneling money surreptitiously to campaigns through other donors known as straw man donations would violate federal campaign finance laws. They'd been recruited and trained in an operation led by a former British spy and security contractor Erik Prince, an avid supporter of Donald Trump. And we actually - I, you know, I - Mark and I reached out to our - one of great political reporters, Jonathan Martin, and asked him, you know. His uncle is the conservative commentator Glenn Beck. They had a - someone came to the Post. But he was extremely wealthy conservative in Wyoming named Foster Friess, who had actually run for governor in '18. Presiding Judge Johnson, who is based in Cheyenne, has himself signaled some uncertainty about whether Wyoming is the right place for Princes case to be heard; in early November, Johnson asked the parties to submit additional briefs on either transferring the case to another district or delving further into the issues related to jurisdiction. It's not clear to us why Prince decided to help Project Veritas. Seddon left the project in 2018, before O'Keefe started releasing low-impact "unmasking the deep state" videos. Prince a former C.I.A. Two other employees, Gaz Thomas and Samuel Chamberlain, were also identified in emails and appeared to play important roles in the Michigan operation. [I] was a Wyoming resident for many years, he told Brietbart. You know, this is something we haven't seen, right? Once a small operation running on a shoestring budget, Project Veritas in recent years has had a surge in donations from both private donors and conservative foundations. And then Seddon - you know, he stays on. Mr. They need some spy training and covert military, paramilitary training at his ranch. And so, you know, I can't tell you right now it hasn't, that somebody else isn't doing this. Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has at times served as an informal adviser to Trump administration officials. In more recent years, Prince has remained a mover and shaker and a controversial figure on the international stage. GOLDMAN: What - the training they got was when they worked for an outfit called Project Veritas. Emails sent to Mr. Seddon went unanswered. You know, was it effective? It seems like the Democrats have figured out this party switch deal to their advantage, Mr. Friess wrote in an email obtained by Wyofile, a political news site in Wyoming. The Times previously reported that, in 2016 and 2017, Mr. You know, I've covered politics for a long time myself, mostly at the state and local level. ', Death toll keeps rising in Greece's deadliest train crash, US Attorney General Merrick Garland testifies before Senate Judiciary Committee, Lineup announced for this years Capitol Hill Block Party, There's no shortage of salt for NYC roads, Temple University students march and protest to demand better safety. That's how you found them, and that's what raised the question? That's a strawman campaign donation. It is unclear how many potential donors Mr. And as I was reporting this, somebody said, well, you know, her picture, you know, she's on that website. And, you know, typically they would have a male individual working for Project Veritas who would accompany these women on these dates as sort of, like, security. And GOLDMAN: Involving Roy Moore - exactly. Mr. This includes participating in marches or rallies in support of a movement or giving money to, or raising money for, any political candidate or election cause. Why were they targeting H.R. But, yeah, this kind of actual infiltration and spying, I don't think I've run across that. He'll be back to talk more about his stories on undercover operations by conservatives to infiltrate democratic and progressive groups after this short break. Mr. He added, With Trump getting 70 percent of the vote, it shows how the Democrats have been able to control our elections with putting on a Republican coat., Mr. Gordon took office in January 2019. He was the one who replaced Michael Flynn after he was fired. DAVIES: Right. And so we're all familiar with that, I think, to some extent. And we've written about that. I mean, people did shoot guns. So he's certainly moved in this world before. They targeted somebody from the Justice Department, and I wrote they also targeted FBI employees. Erik Prince, the failson face of privatized war If the face long associated with modern mercenaries were more successful at his business, we might already live in a much more dystopian world. What are traditional political dirty tricks? He was asked whether he had provided any of the groups secret recordings of Democracy Partners to the Republican National Committee or any member of the Trump family. And Beau eventually divorced his wife. What kind of inroads did they make? But the effort is a glimpse of a vigorous private campaign to try to undermine political groups or individuals perceived to be in opposition to Mr. Trumps agenda. Prince said he wanted the Project Veritas employees to learn skills like how to recruit sources and how to conduct clandestine recordings, among other surveillance techniques. At the center of the scheme was an unusual cast: a former British spy connected to the security contractor Erik Prince, a wealthy heiress to the Gore-Tex fortune and undercover operatives like. DAVIES: They'd gotten formal training in this. Whether any Trump administration officials or advisers to the president were involved in the operations, even tacitly, is unclear. So we had never seen something like that. DAVIES: That's the Government Accountability Office. From 1986 through the present, hes made roughly 100 contributions totaling more than $630,000 to Republican causes and Congressional candidates, according to Federal Election Commission records. So somebody was just waiting - and it turned out to be me and Mark - to come along and make the connection between the Sofia de LaRocca (ph) out in Wyoming and "Maria," quote, unquote, on the Project Veritas Exposed website. He's proposed similar things in other countries, hasn't he? At the time, Ms. Spanberger was running to unseat a sitting Republican congressman in a race both parties considered important for control of the House. GOLDMAN: Project Veritas is founded by James O'Keefe. And her picture wasn't her name GOLDMAN: It was a fake name, Maria. And Prince comes up in the special council report - Robert Mueller's report. Prince to help him secure funding is just one of the new details about Mr. Seddons operation revealed in documents obtained by The Times and interviews with people familiar with his plans. Blackwater Worldwide founder Erik Prince is considering a Republican primary challenge to Wyoming Senator John Barrasso, a senior member of the Senate GOP leadership team, in a race that could pit the party's establishment against insurgents inspired by allies of President Donald Trump. Last month, Project Veritas made public secretly recorded video of a longtime ABC News correspondent who was critical of the networks political coverage and its emphasis on business considerations over journalism. This is FRESH AIR. Mr. Prince said he should have named a different company Moyock Medical Supplies LLC as an example of an entity he owns thats registered to his address in Wapiti. I don't know. The campaign discovered the operative and fired her. However, the story quoted a former U.S. Treasury official who suggested simply making an offer to assist Wagner might have violated current U.S. sanctions in place against the Russian firm. However, after the Powell Tribune questioned some apparent inaccuracies in his Sept. 16 statement, Prince acknowledged misstating a couple of his connections to the state. officer who went on to win an important House seat in Virginia as a Democrat. And then, you know, they both end up giving to the DNC. Two weeks later, on Oct. 14, Prince submitted a new sworn statement in his defamation case, in which he acknowledged he had not registered to vote in Wyoming in 2017. But Trump would, from time to time, cite Project Veritas videos in his, you know, comments, public comments and speeches, right? While he has not been actively involved in Wyoming politics specifically, Prince comes from a political family he is the brother of U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and is an active political donor. contractor who is best known as the founder of the private military firm Blackwater and whose sister, Betsy DeVos, was Mr. Trump's education secretary has drawn. DAVIES: So he is the guy who hires this British spy, Richard Seddon, to train operatives to, you know, gather intelligence from, you know, Democrats and progressives. Wagner which The Intercept described as a semi-private military force that operates in countries or conflicts where the Russian government seeks plausible deniability for its activities reportedly turned down Princes offer. And last year, I learned that Beau and Sofia had been working out of this house in Georgetown. Mr. Princes role in the effort, which has not been previously disclosed, sheds further light on how a group of ultraconservative Republicans employed spycraft to try to manipulate the American political landscape. According to its latest publicly available tax filing, Project Veritas received $8.6 million in contributions and grants in 2018. His attorney did not provide an on-the-record response to questions about his clients voting history while elections officials in Virginia said any requests for voter information must be made in person, at the location where the individual registered. They make significant political contributions, right? var width = jQuery(window).width(); Connor Wroe Southard. WASHINGTON Erik Prince, the security contractor with close ties to the Trump administration, has in recent years helped recruit former American and British spies for secretive. We rely on our journalists to be independent observers. Later that year, Mr. Prince declined to comment. The woman was claiming she had been impregnated by the Senate candidate, thinking that The Washington Post would be so excited to get dirt about a conservative that they would publish a bogus story. You know, there seemed to be - what it showed was, you know, Prince is well-traveled and is always looking for business opportunities. DAVIES: But the idea was that these public officials or FBI agents were secretly - they were part of the deep state. And Las Vegas was the - you could almost say it was the pinnacle, the apex of their operation. And, you know, Seddon then reached out to, you know, a family - an old friend who had worked at the FBI. They were, in fact, undercover spies who had been building a cover as eager Democrats when, in fact, they were anything but that. Fast-forward to 2007, and Erik Prince was living in McLean, Virginia, and spending time on his Middleburg property, Blackwater Ranch, designed as a family retreat just as his parent's home in Cody had been originally. GOLDMAN: Yeah, I would say an active - sure, an active player in certain parts of Trump's world, yeah, or conservative - the conservative world. It was Maria (ph). And they targeted a reporter, a Washington - a very good Washington Post reporter named Stephanie McCrummen, who - they picked up on it very, very, very quickly GOLDMAN: And figured out that this woman was not who she said she was. Erik Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has at times served as an informal adviser to Trump administration officials. And they said, well, you know, she worked for Project Veritas. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. People have probably heard of this organization. Prince, a contractor close to the Trump administration, contacted veteran spies for operations by Project Veritas, the conservative group known for conducting stings on news organizations and other groups. If you are a current print subscriber, you can set up a free web account by clicking here. if (document.referrer) document.write ("&referer=" + escape(document.referrer)); Anyone can read what you share. He passed away recently. I'm Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross, who's off this week. In that deposition, Mr. OKeefe defended the groups undercover tactics, saying they were part of a long tradition of investigative journalism going back to muckraking reporters like Upton Sinclair. Of course, everybody's familiar with Watergate, right? A man named Samuel Chamberlain who matched the description of the one employed by Mr. OKeefe denied he worked for Project Veritas. She went to meetings. What does that tell us about Erik Prince? DAVIES: Let's talk about some of the people who are behind this. And this website is devoted to revealing the identities of Project Veritas operatives. You mentioned that he was recruited by Erik Prince. Key figures in the operation are a former British spy named Richard Seddon and private security contractor Erik Prince, a staunch supporter of Donald Trump. The former Navy SEAL gained fame for the supporting role his Blackwater firm played in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the security contractor became infamous when its employees killed 14 Iraqi civilians and wounded 17 others in Baghdad in 2007. Over two years, Mr. Seddons undercover operatives also developed networks in Colorado and Arizona, and made thousands of dollars in campaign donations posing as Democrats, both to the Democratic National Committee and individual campaigns. Project Veritas tax filings list Mr. Halderman as a project manager.. The Intercept, however, wants the complaint dismissed. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. And then I talked to somebody else. GOLDMAN: I believe that O'Keefe has interacted with Trump. 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