I think part of the cost cutting is not giving as much training. The ottomans for the seats are simply to the side of the seats in front, in order to save space. Eurowings (4Y) Eurowings (EW) EVA Air (BR) Evelop Airlines (E9) Everts Air (5V) EWA AIR (ZD) . On this flight dinner was served after takeoff and breakfast before landing, and you can find the menu below. The lowest roundtrip business class fare from Tampa to Frankfurt is around $4,400, and it goes way up from there. Ive always had a strong emotional connection to Lufthansa and Frankfurt Airport, so whenever taxiing at the airport, my eyes are glued out the window. The guy working our aisle would ask the flight attendant working the other aisle if she had a chicken dish, and she would do the chicken dance with his arms. I could see the A3400-300 a few gates over as we began our pushback. The approach took a bit longer than expected, and we ended up touching down in Frankfurt at 10:25AM. Most Star Alliance points can't be redeemed for travel on the airline because Eurowings Discover isn't a full Star Alliance member. In terms of hard product, you think you're on Lufthansa. The budget IFE selection was paid for by the airline. Use airplane seat map to find which ones are more comfortable and which should be avoided. Tap the seat on the map to see the details. Many thanks! The airline plan to complete the upgrade of the cabin by end of 2023. The lavatories were pretty basic, aside from LOccitane hand lotion. Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. Those are the same operational its predecessor Eurowings long haul had. I thought their drinks were pretty good (I really like their non-alcoholic passion fruit punch at boarding), as well as the appetizers. In most cases LH is either folding them back into the LH brand or dissolving them. Yes, I get that the price is in line with most normal business class but as you said they were almost full so seems that they are pricing right. The only thing different is that the headrest cover has the Eurowings Discover logo rather than the Lufthansa logo. They were young and clearly so enthusiastic to be working as long haul business class cabin crew. The A330 business class has 30 seats spread across five rows. Find the best airplanes seats, information on legroom, recline and in-flight entertainment using our detailed online seating charts. Somehow there was no water in the lavatories for the last three hours of the flight, so if anyone wanted to wash their hands, they had to use bottled water. Once ticketed I saw that the flights are operated by Eurowings Discover (LH codrshare). The Eurowings Discover A330 had three lavatories around business class two in the galley behind the cabin, and one in front of the cabin. We had great views of the plane as we disembarked. >> on this flight the catering is not pleasant and service seems slow / drawn-out. We headed to the Lufthansa Senator Lounge, prior to our Lufthansa Airbus A321 business class flight to Venice. The Eurowings Discover logo is on the headrest cover instead of the Lufthansa logo. The lavatories had no water for the last three hours of the flight, so anyone who wanted to wash their hands had to use bottled water. BA moved to the AA lounge and The International Club closed. 12 . Thanks for an interesting review and I honestly have no interest stepping onboard Eurowings Discover anytime soon. I was also offered a selection of bread, and chose a pretzel roll. Haven't done the BA flight out of Tampa, though. The crew was very friendly. 20 of 22 seats in the Business Class cabin were occupied. I love how many airline partners Aeroplan has. Ford said his dish was revolting and that the chicken was pink. Thank you for that review. The entertainment system of Eurowings is similar to that of Lufthansa. You're totally right, as a kid I frequently flew out of Tampa on Condor. Eurowings Discover A330 business class storage compartment The tray table could be folded over in half. Eurowings is equipping all its Airbus A330 aircraft with business class By Andr Orban - 12 February 2020 0 2886 When Lufthansa took over the commercial and strategic responsibility for the Eurowings long-haul network, it decided that all of the planes would get a business class. At 8:10PM, it was announced that boarding was complete, and a few moments later the main cabin door closed. Im Airbus A330-900 Neo gibt es eine zeitgeme Business-Class-Kabine in 1-2-1-Bestuhlung (Reverse Herringbone"). Not reliable at all. Sheesh. BIZ Class: 16: Best Class: 21: Economy Plus: 40: Economy Class: 223: Traveler photos (0) Add photos . Lizenz: Nutzung in Medien. Enjoy a relaxing flight to your holiday destination in our Business Class. This is just better. I hope this flight will be switched to a lufthansa flight as soon as possible otherwise shutted down better no service than not reliable one. Eurowings and Edelweiss could combine and go back into the Club but I guess they don't want the cost. I ordered the South African sauvignon blanc plus a sparkling water. Due to its design, its primary use comes from domestic routes with 150 passengers.Powered by Next Generation Jets, the aircraft also boasts a First Class cabin with 12-person sitting area equipped with recliner chairs.Economy Plus is equipped with 42 seats and Economy Class has 96. Economy has 260 seats in a 2-4-2 config; Business class has 38 seats in a 2-2-2 config; this is pretty standard for these aircraft. Ford had the panfried chicken breast with mushroom cream sauce. Some of the Airbus A330-300s, however, were previously used by Edelweiss. Long-haul Economy Class In Economy Class, guests can look forward to a special and high-quality travel experience, with all meals and non-alcoholic beverages included in the price. While Lufthansa and Eurowings often is without alternatives in Europe I will definitely avoid Discover. The cabin started to get brighter about an hour later, and I really struggled to sleep. The plane just generally didnt feel very clean or fresh, and even the overhead consoles had all kinds of dirt marks and scratches on them. Until August 31st, the aircraft had completed 78,461 flight hours (equating to 8.95 years in the skies) across 13,220 flight cycles. Die Economy Class verfgt in der ehemaligen Edelweiss Maschine ber 244 Sitze. There is a departure time of 8:20PM and arrival time of 10:30AM on March 25th.The flight from Frankfurt to Venice is departing at 12:50PM. Eurowings Discover has its own branding, while many of the service items are from Lufthansa. @ tipsyinmadras -- To be clear, the lack of consistent branding didn't in any way bother me, I was just pointing it out because I found it interesting (same as the four engine plane on the map). There were 77 TV shows and 66 movies, but very few of them were mainstream or new. *sigh*. Economy has 189 seats in a 2-4-2 config; Business class has 21 seats in a 2-3-2 config; this is pretty standard for these aircraft. Has Lufthansa discontinued mainline flights to TPA? BEST is a Premium Economy Calss cabin that features 21 recliner style seats. The cheapest roundtrip business class fare right now from Tampa to Frankfurt is ~$4,400. Though I must say that in both recent reviews, they did look delicious! They were operated but Brussels, but with a Eurowings livery. Business class is all about being able to arrive well rested, and the speed of service on an overnight flight is a big part of that. The Eurowings Discover experience was disappointing. Heres the thing the crew was exceptionally friendly. Class Pitch Width Seats; Business Class: 45" 17.5" 21: Economy Comfort: 32" 17" 48: Economy Class: 30-32" 17" 261: Traveler photos (0) Add photos . We booked and are flying out of Air Canada and the return was supposed to be Lufthansa. The aircraft are used on long-haul routes. Unfortunately the airline lacks operational reliability, experienced crews, and Wi-Fi, which can greatly impact the experience. It was so nice to see the Lufthansa Airbus A340-600 once again, as the plane only recently returned to service after being grounded during the pandemic. I appreciate the review. It is nice that a leisure airline has the same business class as a full service airline. Also in the center armrest was the controller for the rather outdated entertainment system. I was able to book the following in business class for 70,000 Aeroplan points and a fee of $72.58 per person. The kit was solid, and had socks, eyeshades, earplugs, a dental kit, a mint, a refreshing towel, and two creams from LOccitane. The plane didn't feel very clean or fresh, and the overhead consoles had a lot of dirt marks and scratches on them. The way they did it was entertaining. Plus, as others have observed, they are on holiday so won't mind a long service or little sleep aboard. The seats are unimpressive and given its price tag, I will stick with other European airlines. How do you keep track of which plane you've flown? The four other seats in row five were empty. James, I have never been bothered by FAs on flights to Europe due to not wearing a mask (basically I take it off after take off and do not put it back on till landing). The sun was setting and it was beautiful. It was another 30 minutes until the starter was served. TPA was my home airport to as a kid and I loved seeing the BA 777 at the gate whenever you would drive into the airport. In this configuration, center seats are angled slightly toward one another. It is a bit narrow but more than acceptable. So I agree with you that there could be a market for Lufthansa having a Norwegian-style airline, especially with the kinds of leisure travelers taking this flight, but it needs to be priced accordingly. I'll take sitting next to a stranger over cramming my size 12s into a size 8 shoe box. I'm considering booking YYC-FRA-BJV (bodrum) on Eurowings and LH and plan to go ahead. (?). It took the crew nearly 30 minutes to serve these to passengers. Airbus A330-300. At around 8:15PM we began our pushback I could see the Edelweiss A340-300 a few gates over. The Eurowings Discover experience is similar to the business class experience at Lufthansa. Yay! Then the crew came through the cabin to extend each passengers tray table and place a tablecloth on it, and then nothing happened for 45 minutes. Lufty used to use the AA lounge in Tampa when it operated the flight. @ DCA Will Always Be "National" -- That's a fair point. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. It feels like LH continues to fail up. Unfortunately the airline lacks operational reliability, experienced crews, and Wi-Fi, which can greatly impact the experience. I assume gate assignments are scheduled based on a variety of factors, though I've never really been able to make much sense of it. See, theres a method to my seat selection preferences. It's sad to see how LH has lost its way. Seither ist er nicht wieder abgehoben, berichtet FNP. Storia Dopoguerra e anni '50 Un Convair CV-340 nel 1954.. Lufthansa fa risalire le sue origini al 1926, quando la Deutsche Luft Hansa A.G. (designata come Deutsche Lufthansa dal 1933 in poi) si form a Berlino. Id also note that there just generally seemed to be a lot of confusion with the service. Cafe by Mise en Place is the Priority Pass restaurant at the Eurowings Discover terminal. It was pretty good, I chose the yellow beet carpaccio with smoked salmon and french cocktail sauce. This was basically like flying with British Airways Mixed Fleet crews back in the day, when they first started being hired. Rating this 2.5 and the recent domestic "first" shocker 4/5 just does not make any sense. Eurowings Discover serves coffee in large cups so you get a decent amount. Lie-flat. At 20:40, Rows 1 to 14 were invited to board - priority boarding for Business Class and Best Class (that's Eurowings Premium Economy). The airline has no operational reliability. Airbus A330-900neo. In unserem Eurowings Discover Airbus A330-200 sind 22 Sitze in der Business Class, 17 in der Premium Economy und 231 in der Economy Class verbaut. The presentation wasn't great, but it's standard for these airplane casserole-style dishes. The Eurowings Discover brand is a long-distance leisure airline owned and operated by German carrier Lufthansa. On the plus side, its nice that a leisure airline has the same business class as a full service airline. I selected the yellow beet carpaccio with smoked salmon and french cocktail sauce, which was pretty good. There is a method to my seat selection preferences. Unfortunately I found the Eurowings Discover experience to be underwhelming. The Business Class cabin on the A330 makes a chic first impression, with dark grey seat covers, wood-trimmed decor touches, and QA's signature purple color displayed on the entertainment screens. I will see if we can move to a later flight with a real business class. Airplane Airbus A330-200 (332) Eurowings with 2 classes and 310 seats on board. Eurowings Discover is a brand new airline. The issue is not having to squeeze your feet into a small footwell. Then there was the choice of rolls or croissants, with jam, Nutella, etc. Yet, I feel like I can't escape this notion from bloggers that somehow LH is this magical flying beast that's just so great. Your experience is much in line with I have experienced with them on 3 trips to Namibia. Class Pitch Width Row Seats; Business Class. The Eurowings Discover check-in experience in Tampa was rather chaotic. The logo was the only thing different from the standard one. indeed - i agree that sometimes the 'rubbish' business class is same price as the more excellent classes - one the reasons I enjpy following this insightful travel blog is Ben's candid honesty to help me plan my own flights We boarded through the second set of doors, where we were greeted by a young and friendly crew, and pointed left into the business class cabin. This reminds me to buy them next time I go grocery shopping. Our welcome drink, specially created for Eurowings Discover, and our exclusive range of beverages will round off this culinary experience. Ive noticed in pictures that the bulkhead screens are flush mounted next to each other and look much different than the screens in the other rows. LOT Business Class passengers; Star Alliance Gold members; HON Circle members; Miles & More member with Frequent Traveler status (Star Alliance Silver) LOT Premium Economy passengers on flights from/to China, Kazakhstan, India, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Sri Lanka and the USA can purchase access at a discounted rate of PLN120 (~27USD). I'm not reading into current load factors too much one way or another given the weird times we live in, but I don't necessarily conclude Eurowings Discover is doing well You certainly took a bullet for us, switching from a Singapore A380 suite to Eurowings just so you could write a review! The catering looked nice and even better than Lufthansa, especially the hot breakfast option now. For my main course I ordered the cajun style sauted shrimp with cream sauce, jasmine quinoa rice, and broccoli. What do you make of the Eurowings Discover business class experience? There was the choice of champagne, orange juice, or water, though the crew served these really inefficiently. Eurowings Discover isnt operationally reliable (we were delayed by a day, and that was the fourth cancelation on the route in four weeks), the plane wasnt in great shape, the Wi-Fi wasnt turned on, and the crew was really inexperienced and inefficient, though friendly. Eurowings Discover. Our first three flights all ended up different configurations (including the staggered Swiss layout), though the last 3 You certainly took a bullet for us, switching from a Singapore A380 suite to Eurowings just so you could write a review! Direct aisle access at every seat. Technical specifications: passenger capacity - 150-180 people, flight range - 6,150 km. like they had to win a Grand Prix race. We shared a cheese plate because they ran out of dessert. Shortly after settling in, each business class passenger was offered an amenity kit. Quick question here. - YouTube 0:00 / 14:55 Review: EUROWINGS DISCOVER A330 in BUSINESS CLASS! Flight from as close to West coast to europe as i can get (i hate flying to east coast for a europe flight); 2. Some Eurowings Discover A330s used to fly for SWISS subsidiary Edelweiss, and those planes have a staggered business class configuration, similar to what youll find in SWISS business class. At that point warm towels were distributed, plus the choice of orange juice or water. The Eurowings Airbus A330-200 features 310 seats in a 2 cabin configuration. Ugh, why not? Which would also match the one on your screen with no mention of Discover as that brand wasnt born yet back then. It is more difficult to fix these kinds of issues on small leisure airlines because crews are paid less and don't have much experience. For me, the problems with operational reliability would rule out Eurowings already. But the flight hits most of the things I prioritize: 1. TAP Portugal hat die Business Class erst neulich modernisiert und bietet auf Langstrecke jetzt ausschlielich Lie-Flat-Sitze an. The plane has Wi-Fi installed on it, given that the plane had Wi-Fi when Lufthansa flew it. In front of and underneath the center armrest were two AC power outlets. Zum Start des Sommerflugplans stattet Eurowings Discover neben der Business Class und der Premium Economy Class, . Auch die Premium Economy wird in der Gre wachsen. Very disappointing. There is a new Aeroplan Credit Card in the United States which is pretty lucrative. I'm booking for my family of 4, so sorta need to take what i can get. LH has a bottom-tier J product, Y is fairly standard and no frills, but they have an admittedly great F product. Mostly underwhelming (but given that I'm usually on United, there were several areas where Eurowings was superior). By the time the meal was done, we were in Germany. So disapointing. For many years my wife and I looked forward to flying on LH. Sounds like it might be better to fly this airline to the US than to Germany. This can be booked in business class for 70,000 Aeroplan points plus $72.58 in taxes and fees. I want to make it clear that this is not the fault of the crew, but of management and the people doing training. I often have the feeling that you like criticizing Lufthansa or that you are harder on them than on other carriers. The rest looked very similar to classic Lufthansa to me, which is fine. The window seats are facing the fuselage. Eurowings Discovers website suggests that some planes have Wi-Fi, but I guess this wasnt one of them. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs prevail against Buffalo Bills, win wild AFC divisional game in overtime, This was an 8hr45min flight, and the two meal services combined took 4hr25min, more than half the flight; dinner shouldnt take 2hr10min, and a breakfast served on a single tray shouldnt start 2hr15min before landing, In the most amateur move ever, the crew didnt close the window shades after the meal service, and since it was dark out, most passengers didnt either; the cabin started to get light around three hours before landing, which woke most people up (and then even then the crew didnt make an attempt to close the window shades). We were checked in quickly because the business class line was short. Opinions expressed here are the author's alone, not those of the bank, credit card issuer, airline, hotel chain, or product manufacturer/service provider, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Hi Ben, Finnair newly refurbished A330/A350 will be flying long haul from May. The Eurowings Airbus A330-300 presented here is configured with 283 seats that are sectioned into three separate classes - BIZclass, BEST and Economy. I have always had a strong emotional connection to the airports, so whenever I taxi at the airport, my eyes are on the window. Thanks so much for your review! Lie-flat seats. When the plane was flown by Lufthansa, it had wi-fi. In terms of the ability to get rest, this flight felt like this Great British Air flight, minus the force-fed truffles, of course. The cookies on our website are also used to collect usage statistics/analytics as well as for advertising re-targeting. This is why I stopped reading TPG and I hope to not stop reading OMAAT. And I can tell you that as much as I'd love to believe that Lufthansa is a great global airline (I am a bit biased, since I have an emotional connection to the airline), it's not. They don't need to arrive rested and refreshed to make an important business meeting on arrival. Eine Maschine der Fluggesellschaft Eurowings Discover wurde bei der Landung am Zielflughafen beschdigt. By the time the meal was done, we were around 6hr35min from Frankfurt. @ Nate nate -- I don't track registration codes as closely as others, but for whatever reason the code sounded familiar when I saw it. There were two AC power outlets in front of the center armrest. Thanks for the review. We headed to the Senator Lounge prior to our flight to Venice. The sun was just starting to set, and what a gorgeous evening it was. The layout of the restaurant and the food and drink selection are better than what you'll find in most US airline lounges. Additionally, Condor will offer high speed wi-fi throughout the aircraft. But they also had no clue what they were doing. There were no individual air nozzles on the overhead consoles. Ford said his dish was revolting, and that the chicken was borderline pink. There is a departure time of 8:20PM and arrival time of 10:30AM on March 25th.

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